Who is suffering who m i

Bhagavan Ramana's teaching is to pay attention to the root cause of suffering. Who is suffering? Who is the "I" that suffers?  "Who am I?" inquiry practiced intensely leads one to notice the subject, the one who is asking, the one who is turning attention within. To stay with this subject as the subject is the way. When the subject attends to the subject, the inquiry has started.

Loss of ego Disappearance of Intelligent

Shri Jamnalal Bajaj asked questions:

Shri Jamnalal Bajaj : How is the mind to be steadily kept right?

Ramana Maharshi : All living beings are aware of their surroundings and therefore intellect must be surmised in all of them.
At the same time, there is a difference between the intellect of man and that of other animals, because man not only sees the world as it is and acts accordingly, but also seeks fulfilment of desires and is not satisfied with the existing state of affairs. In his attempt to fulfil his desires he extends his vision far and wide and yet he turns away dissatisfied. He now begins to think and reason.

The desire for permanency of happiness and of peace bespeaks
such permanency in his own nature. Therefore he seeks to find and
regain his own nature, i.e., his Self. That found, all is found.
Such inward seeking is the path to be gained by man’s intellect.
The intellect itself realises after continuous practice that it is enabled by some Higher Power to function. It cannot itself reach that Power.

So it ceases to function after a certain stage. When it thus ceases
to function the Supreme Power is still left there all alone. That is
Realisation; that is the finality; that is the goal.

It is thus plain that the purpose of the intellect is to realise its own
dependence upon the Higher Power and its inability to reach the
same. So it must annihilate itself before the goal is gained.

D.: A sloka is quoted which means: “I do not desire kingdoms, etc.
Only let me serve Thee forever and there lies my highest pleasure.”
Is that right?

Maharshi .: Yes. There is room for kama (desire) so long as there is an object apart from the subject (i.e., duality). There can be no desire if there is no object. The state of no-desire is moksha. There is no duality in sleep and also no desire. Whereas there is duality in the waking state and desire also is there. Because of duality a desire arises for the acquisition of the object. That is the outgoing mind, which is the basis of duality and of desire. If one knows that Bliss is none other than the Self the mind becomes inward turned. If the Self is gained all the desires are fulfilled. That is the apta kamah atma kamah akamascha (fulfilment of desire) of the Brihadaranyaka
Upanishad. That is moksha.

Here Shri Jamnalal Bajaj tried to make himself clear by saying that what he meant by sadbuddhi was not the same as buddhi. It means that which holds fast to the good, the right and the chosen path. He wanted to know how such steadfastness could be gained.

Maharshi : What is wanted for gaining the highest goal is loss of individuality.
The intellect is co-extensive with individuality. Loss of individuality
can only be after the disappearance of buddhi, good or bad. The
question therefore does not arise.

D.: But yet one must know the right thing, choose the right path,
practise the right dharma and hold fast to it. Otherwise he is lost.
M.: True strength accrues by keeping in the right direction without
swerving from it.

D.: Difficulties are met with. How is one to get the strength necessary
to overcome the obstacles which beset one’s path?
M.: By means of devotion and company of the sages.

D.: Loss of individuality was just before mentioned as a prerequisite
to moksha. Now devotion and association with the wise are advised
as the methods. Is there not individuality implied in them e.g., in
“I am a bhakta”, “I am a satsangi”?

M.: The method is pointed out to the seeker. The seeker has certainly not lost his individuality so far. Otherwise the question would not have arisen. The way is shown to effect the loss of individuality of the seeker. It is thus appropriate.

Mind

Eventually the mind discovers that it’s free, that it’s infinitely out of control and infinitely joyful. Eventually, it falls in love with the unknown. In that it can rest. And since it no longer believes what it thinks, it remains always peaceful, wherever it is or isn’t.

Byron Katie, A Thousand Names for Joy. p.43

Inner love is goal

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LOVE IS A VERY BASIC NEED... as basic as food. Without food and without love, you will start shrinking. Without food, the body will start dying. Without love, your innermost being starts dying.

The meditation will give you an inner beauty, grace, and love will help that inner beauty and grace from the outside. It will become a protection and a help.
Move into a relationship with the idea that out of love you have to attain to meditation.

And love can help tremendously if you are rightly aware. Otherwise love is very destructive. It destroys many people. It simply gives trouble, anxiety, anguish, sadness, depression, frustration. But nothing is wrong in love. Something is wrong within, the person, in his attitude. He couldn't use love.
You can use fire to warm your house, to heat your house. You can also burn the house. But nothing is wrong in fire. It can be your friend; it can be your enemy -- it depends on you. So don't be lost in love.

And always remember that the inner synthesis is needed. The outer is just a means to the inner but the inner is the goal.

OSHO, Beloved of My Heart

Enlightenment

Many great travelers of the inner world have got stuck in beautiful experiences, and have become identified with those experiences, thinking, "I have found myself." They have stopped before reaching the final stage where all experiences disappear. Enlightenment is not an experience. However beautiful and however enchanting an experience you come across, you are not it. You are the one who is witnessing it. If you go on and on and on, the ultimate in the journey is the point when there is no experience left - neither silence, nor blissfulness, nor nothingness. There is nothing as an object for you, but only your subjectivity. The mirror is empty; it is not reflecting anything.

~ Osho

वह कृष्ण था

Episode 2

कला जीवन कि किताब है और जीवन उदाहरण मांगता है उदाहरण धुंडो और जियो उसे .. अब में ने उस किताब के पन्नो को पलटना शुरू किया है

वह कृष्ण था

Be as u are

Question: How to stop thinking?

Papaji: By Being! (giggles)
When you think that you are an object, a person,
a body, or some other idea,
but by Being there is nothing !
Just Being.
And Being is already there.
You are always Being.

To become something you must meditate and
perform some mantra, ritual, practice.
Just to Be is simple.
Without Being you can't do any practice.
So don't think of anything else.
Just Be!
It is so easy to Be.

Question: But when I try to just be, so much thinking happens.
I am sure everyone has this problem.

Papaji: Thinking happens when you want to become something.
Then you must think.
But to not become something what is there to do?
Stay as you are!
Be as you are in whatever circumstances, just always Be,
It doesn't need any practice.

Whatever you get by practice you will lose,
but Being will never be lost
because you will not get it by any experience or practice.

It simply is, Simply Be.
Don't stir your mind in Being,
don't think and
don't make effort.

I will tell you how to be Being itself.
No effort, no thinking.
Avoid thinking and avoid not thinking.
What is between these two?

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How to experience the Self?

Be still, quiet, that's how, nothing else.
Quiet your mind that is all you have to do.
This alone will awaken you.
But by thinking, thinking, constantly thinking and
trying to change things,
trying to make things your way,
trying to acquire knowledge you'll never awaken,
you'll never be awakened.

Know this once and for all.
The only way you will ever awaken is through the silence,
not through analyzation of facts.
Not by sorting out good and bad,
but through simple silence, letting go.
Letting go of all thoughts, all the hurts,
all the dogmas and concepts.
Letting go of these things daily.

~Robert Adams

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When you think about the mind,
when you're thinking about the thoughts
then you're giving it energy.
When you just observe and just watch and
leave it alone and do nothing
where does the energy come from?
There is no energy to give it.
So you ignore the mind by observing it
Then you will find out that there is no mind.

You've been wasting your time for years observing something
that doesn't exist.
So why would you want to do that?
All this talk about observing minds, watching minds.
The truth is there is nothing to watch, there is nothing to observe.
I'm just sitting here telling you these things
because you want to hear me talk.
But there is nothing to do.
There is nothing to observe,
there is nothing to watch.
Who watches, who observes?

The one who believes they are a body, a doer.
When you get rid of the misconceptions you're a doer or a watcher
you'll have nothing to watch and nothing to do.
But as long as you believe that you are the doer
then you will think of all kinds of practices that you want to do.
You'll practice yoga meditation, japa, mantra, pranayama.
You do all of these things because you think you are the doer.
But when the realization comes to you that
you're not the doer then you do not have to do anything,
there is nothing to do.

So know the truth about yourself.
I am not the doer therefore I have absolutely nothing to do.
I'm at peace with myself and the whole universe and all is well.
You see my friends nothing really exists.
You don't exist, I don't exist nothing really exists.
Everything is an illusion.
Everything is an appearance.
It appears to exist but it doesn't exist.
Everything that you see is hallucination.
You've been hallucinating for years.
It's time you stopped.

~ Robert Adams